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How old is your upright or grand piano? The Piano Atlas combines dating by serial number with a directory of historical makers and their company histories.
Dating relies on the instrument’s factory serial number. Numbers on the action or keyboard, and dates on award medallions, may refer to something else.
On an upright, start beneath the top lid: the number is often on the inside or top edge of a side panel. On a grand, it is often on the iron plate near the tuning pins. The markers show typical locations across different designs.

A J before a Yamaha serial number indicates Jakarta, H Hangzhou and YT Taoyuan. T denotes Thomaston and U South Haven in the USA. These factories have their own number ranges, so the digits alone are not enough to date instruments with these prefixes.
An A before a Kawai serial number identifies US production; an F identifies instruments made in Indonesia.
The serial number is usually on the iron plate near the tuning pins. Early Bechstein grands may have it on the soundboard beneath the company logo. Other numbers, including those further back on the soundboard, may be internal production numbers rather than the instrument’s serial number.
On a Steinway upright, the serial number may be on top of the pinblock above the iron plate. On a grand, it is on the plate between the tuning pins, above the keyboard.
Wilhelm Schimmel founded his workshop near Leipzig in 1885. Upright piano production moved to Braunschweig in 1929, while grand piano production initially remained in Leipzig. In Braunschweig, Arno Schimmel developed the compact Mini Royal upright, followed by further small piano designs in the 1930s.
August Förster began making pianos in Löbau in 1859 and opened a branch factory in Georgswalde in 1900. After the Second World War, instruments were also made under this name in Czechoslovakia.
Feurich was established in Leipzig in 1851. Following expropriation, production continued in Langlau in cooperation with Euterpe.
Historical Grotrian instruments may carry names such as C. F. Th. Steinweg Nachf. or Steinweg Nachf., Grotrian, Braunschweig. The name Grotrian-Steinweg came later. Despite the similar wording, these are not Steinway & Sons instruments, and the respective serial numbers must not be confused.
Schiedmayer & Söhne and J. & P. Schiedmayer were separate Stuttgart firms. J. & P. was later called Schiedmayer Pianofortefabrik.
Seiler was founded in Liegnitz in 1849. After the war, production restarted in Denmark and then in Kitzingen from 1961.
The factory founded in 1862 was initially called J. A. Pfeiffer. It was renamed Carl A. Pfeiffer in 1912. Both names belong to the history of the same Stuttgart maker, so an older inscription need not indicate a different piano brand.
PETROF also calls an instrument’s identifying number its opus number. The manufacturer uses this term when offering information about PETROF, Weinbach, Rösler and Scholze uprights and grands. It refers to the individual instrument number.
The extra fourth string in the high treble of many Blüthner grands belongs to the Aliquot system. Rather than being struck by the hammer, it vibrates sympathetically.
Age tells you little about how well a piano plays today. Tuning stability, soundboard, pinblock, action and previous repairs need to be assessed on the instrument itself. PIANOHOF offers piano condition assessments in Berlin and the surrounding area and advice on piano repair and restoration. A targeted repair can also make sense for an older instrument.
Dated factory serial numbers provide clues to when a piano was made. A number between known dated examples can suggest an approximate year or period. The company’s founding year, by contrast, does not give the age of the individual instrument.
Here, factory number and serial number refer to the instrument’s identifying number. Additional numbers on the action, keyboard or case parts may serve other purposes. Letters and leading zeros can be part of the serial number.
Upright: Under the top lid – on the inner sides of the case or their top edges; also on the iron frame or the wooden soundboard behind the strings.
Grand: Under the lid – on the iron frame, for example near the tuning pins or beneath the music desk; also on the wooden soundboard beneath the strings.
Keep readable characters in their original order and mark any unreadable positions. One missing digit is different from an unknown section at the beginning or end of a number.
Do not fill a missing digit with a guess. A partly readable number may match several possible periods; other features can then help narrow the result.
A complete brand name, a place name or an earlier company name can sometimes help. Founding dates, moves and the end of production may provide context. The company’s founding year is not the manufacturing year of an individual piano.
The action or keyboard may offer additional clues. These components have their own makers and sometimes their own numbering sequences. A component’s date is a clue, not automatically the completion year of the whole instrument.
Dates beside medals or awards refer first to the award. They are not direct evidence of the instrument’s manufacturing year.
Handwritten entries may come from manufacture, but they may also record later tuning or repairs. What a marking describes and where it appears both matter.
The year of manufacture alone does not determine a piano’s value or condition. Construction, preservation and previous work also matter. An old piano may still play well or be worth repairing.
If a piano no longer holds its tuning, or a tuner has declined further work, replacement is not the only possible outcome. The cause needs to be assessed first. Many checks can be carried out at the instrument, and some repairs to loose tuning pins are also possible on site, depending on the findings. PIANOHOF advises on piano repair and restoration in Berlin and the surrounding area.
For some makers, only a few dated numbers are known. Number allocation, completion and sale may also have taken place at different times. A period expresses that uncertainty rather than implying an exact year.
Different numbering series or reused numbers can produce several possible years. With fewer dated examples, the estimate remains broader. “Approx.” marks an estimate, not a documented completion date.